Fails the Bechdel test

Born on the Fourth of July

1990. Directed by Oliver Stone, written by Ron Kovic and Oliver Stone.

The Bechdel test

Bechdel score

1 / 3

Fails

  1. Yes 1. At least two women
    27 women characters. 4 of them speak.
  2. No 2. Who talk to each other
    Our parser found no scene where two women talk to each other.
  3. No 3. About something besides a man
    Not reached: the film fails an earlier rule.

Second opinion

Disagree bechdeltest.com readers give it 3 out of 3.

Poster for Born on the Fourth of July

The film

Based on the true story of Ron Kovic (Cruise, in an Oscar-nominated performance), an idealistic young American proudly enlists during the Vietnam War and returns home a paraplegic. Struggling to overcome drug-addiction and depression, he turns his life around and becomes an outspoken critic of the war.

Released
05 Jan 1990
Genres
Biography, Drama, War
Rated
R
IMDb
7.2 / 10
Metascore
75 / 100
Awards
Won 2 Oscars. 15 wins & 26 nominations total
Elsewhere
View on IMDb

Starring, by lines spoken

  • Women
  • Men
  • Not in the cast list
  • Bigger name, more lines
  1. Ron 57 lines, man
  2. Ronnie 39 lines, man
  3. Donna 22 lines, woman
  4. Mom 19 lines, woman
  5. Lieutenant 11 lines
  6. Dad 9 lines, man
  7. Coach 8 lines
  8. Stevie 7 lines, man
  9. Tommy 7 lines, man
  10. Jimmy 6 lines, man
Full cast, 103 people
  • Tom Cruise as Ron Kovic
  • Raymond J. Barry as Mr. Kovic
  • Caroline Kava as Mrs. Kovic
  • Kyra Sedgwick as Donna
  • Willem Dafoe as Charlie
  • Jerry Levine as Steve Boyer
  • Stephen Baldwin as Billy Vorsovich
  • Josh Evans as Tommy Kovic
  • Rob Camilletti as Tommy Finnelli
  • Vivica A. Fox as Hooker
  • Lili Taylor as Jamie Wilson
  • Tony Frank as Mr. Wilson
  • Holly Marie Combs as Jenny
  • Tom Berenger as Sergeant Hayes
  • Frank Whaley as Timmy
  • Mark Moses as Optimistic Doctor
  • Bob Gunton as Doctor #1
  • Cordelia González as Maria Elena
  • Jayne Haynes as Mrs. Wilson
  • Anne Bobby as Suzanne Kovic
  • Richard Panebianco as Joey Walsh
  • Tom Sizemore as Vet - Villa Dulce
  • Michael Wincott as Vet - Villa Dulce
  • Mike Starr as Man #1 - Arthur's Bar
  • Ed Lauter as Legion Commander
  • Daniel Baldwin as Vet #1 - Democratic Convention
  • Brian Tarantina as Vet #2 - Miami Convention
  • Dale Dye as Infantry Colonel
  • Norma Moore as Massapequa Mom
  • Stacey Moseley as Young Donna's Friend
  • Oliver Stone as News Reporter
  • Sean Stone as Young Jimmy Kovic
  • Jenna Von Oÿ as Young Suzanne Kovic
  • Ellen Pasternack as Neighbor
  • Joy Zapata as Neighbor
  • John Getz as Marine Major - Vietnam
  • David Warshofsky as Lieutenant - Vietnam
  • Jason Gedrick as Martinez - Vietnam
  • Bill Allen as Platoon - Vietnam
  • William Baldwin as Platoon - Vietnam
  • Claude Brooks as Platoon - Vietnam
  • James Le Gros as Platoon - Vietnam
  • William Mapother as Platoon - Vietnam
  • Byron Minns as Platoon - Vietnam
  • Markus Flanagan as Doctor - Vietnam
  • R. D. Call as Chaplain - Vietnam
  • Corkey Ford as Marvin - VA Hospital
  • Rocky Carroll as Willie - VA Hospital
  • Chris Pedersen as Aide #3 - VA Hospital
  • David Herman as Patient - VA Hospital
  • Bruce MacVittie as Patient - VA Hospital
  • Damien Leake as Patient - VA Hospital
  • David Neidorf as Patient - VA Hospital
  • Paul Sanchez as Patient - VA Hospital
  • Billie Neal as Nurse Washington - VA Hospital
  • Richard Poe as Frankie - VA Hospital
  • Jake Weber as Donna's Boyfriend - Syracuse, NY
  • Reg E. Cathey as Speaker - Syracuse, NY
  • Edie Brickell as Folk Singer - Syracuse, NY
  • Joseph P. Reidy as Student Organizer - Syracuse, NY
  • Beau Starr as Man #2 - Arthur's Bar
  • Rick Masters as Man #3 - Arthur's Bar
  • John Del Regno as Friend #1 - Arthur's Bar
  • Melinda Renna as Barmaid - Arthur's Bar
  • Andrew Lauer as Vet - Villa Dulce
  • Ivan Kane as Vet - Villa Dulce
  • J.R. Nutt as Young Tommy
  • Begonya Plaza as Charlie's Hooker - Villa Dulce
  • Edith Diaz as Madame - Villa Dulce
  • Anthony Pena as Bartender - Villa Dulce
  • Peter Crombie as Undercover Vet - Miami Convention
  • Ken Osborne as Paraplegic #2 - Miami Convention
  • Alan Toy as Paraplegic #3 - Miami Convention
  • Chuck Pfeiffer as Secret Service Agent - Miami Convention
  • William Wallace as Agent #2 - Miami Convention
  • Eagle-Eye Cherry as Vet #1 - Miami Convention
  • Frank Cavestani as Vet #3 - Miami Convention
  • John William Galt as Fat Republican - Miami Convention
  • Jack McGee as Democratic Delegate - Democratic Convention
  • Jodi Long as Reporter #1 - Democratic Conventon
  • Michelle Hurst as Reporter #2 - Democratic Conventon
  • John C. McGinley as Official #1 - Democratic Convention, Pushing Wheelchair
  • Wayne Knight as Official #2 - Democratic Convention
  • Elizabeth Hoffman as Passerby #1 - Democratic Convention
  • Lucinda Jenney as Passerby #2 - Democratic Convention
  • Annie McEnroe as Passerby #4 - Democratic Convention
  • Réal Andrews as Vet #2 - Democratic Convention
  • Theresa Bell as Democratic Conventioner (uncredited)
  • Dean Denton as Marine Recruiter (uncredited)
  • Ron Kovic as Parade Veteran (uncredited)
  • Delia Sheppard as Protesting War Widow (uncredited)
  • Nick Nicholson as Soldier (uncredited)
  • Norman D. Wilson as Veteran (uncredited)
  • Frank Girardeau as Agent #1 - Miami Convention
  • Donald Wilson as Corpsman - Vietnam
  • Jessica Prunell as Young Donna
  • Michael Guess as Platoon
  • Gale Mayron as Friend #2
  • Bryan Larkin as young Ron
  • Seth Allen as Young Tommy
  • Erika Geminder as Young Patty
  • Samantha Larkin as Patty Kovic
  • Ben Wright as Platoon

Who talks, scene by scene

Lines of dialogue in every 1 scene, start to finish. Women above the line, men below. 25% of lines come from characters we couldn't match to the cast list and aren't shown.

Women

Men

Scene 1 Scene 45

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Show the numbers
ScenesWomen's linesMen's lines
1 to 100
2 to 204
3 to 3107
4 to 467
5 to 5510
6 to 601
7 to 700
8 to 801
9 to 900
10 to 1020
11 to 1121
12 to 1212
13 to 1302
14 to 1410
15 to 1501
16 to 1601
17 to 1706
18 to 18023
19 to 1988
20 to 2000
21 to 2114
22 to 2201
23 to 2300
24 to 2411
25 to 2502
26 to 2604
27 to 2703
28 to 2805
29 to 2900
30 to 3000
31 to 3100
32 to 3200
33 to 33011
34 to 3405
35 to 3524
36 to 3606
37 to 3700
38 to 3803
39 to 3920
40 to 4004
41 to 41314
42 to 42318
43 to 4300
44 to 44313
45 to 4506

The evidence

  • Straight from the script
  • Counted from the script and the credits

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Exhibit A: every 100 lines

Out of every 100 lines with a known speaker, 22 are women's.

50 lines from women, 178 from men.

  • Women
  • Men

Exhibit B: who's in it

27 women and 74 men in the cast. 4 women and 26 men from it get lines.

Characters

With lines

  • Women
  • Men

Exhibit C: who gets heard

The first woman speaks at line 8 of 302. The longest stretch with no woman speaking runs 69 lines.

Every line of dialogue, first to last

  • First line by a woman
  • Longest stretch with no woman speaking

Words spoken

Women speak 15% of the words (458), men 85% (2,541). Women have 22% of the lines, so their lines run shorter than men's.

Exhibit D: the test the other way

Two named men talk to each other about something besides a woman. It passes the reverse test.

Conversations between two named characters

Exhibit E: behind the camera

2 of the 16 people in these jobs are women. Across the whole crew, 14% of the people whose gender is listed are women.

Directed by
Oliver Stone (man)
Written by
Oliver Stone (man), Ron Kovic (man)
Produced by
Joseph P. Reidy (man), Clayton Townsend (man), A. Kitman Ho (man), Oliver Stone (man), Lope V. Juban Jr. (gender not listed)
Shot by
Robert Richardson (man)
Edited by
David Brenner (man), Joe Hutshing (man)
Music by
John Williams (man)
Production design by
Bruno Rubeo (man)
Costumes by
Judy L. Ruskin (woman)
Cast by
Billy Hopkins (man), Risa Bramon Garcia (woman)

The crew, department by department

  • Production

    2 women, 8 men, 1 not listed

  • Art

    0 women, 5 men

  • Sound

    0 women, 5 men

  • Directing

    1 women, 3 men

  • Costume & Make-Up

    2 women, 0 men, 1 not listed

  • Writing

    0 women, 3 men

  • Camera

    0 women, 2 men

  • Other crew

    0 women, 1 men, 1 not listed

  • Women
  • Men
  • Gender not listed on TMDB

Exhibit F: how old the stars were

Women: 30 on average. Men: 30 on average. The top-billed cast, at the film's release.

Women

Kyra Sedgwick 24, Vivica A. Fox 25, Caroline Kava 40

Men

Josh Evans 18, Stephen Baldwin 23, Rob Camilletti 25, Tom Cruise 27, Jerry Levine 32, Willem Dafoe 34, Raymond J. Barry 50

Exhibit G: the money

It made 11.5 times what it cost.

Budget
$14 million
Box office
$161 million

From TMDB, not adjusted for inflation.

About this analysis

Our parser read the script: 45 scenes and 302 lines of dialogue. The bechdeltest.com rating comes from that site’s readers. How the test works

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