Fails the Bechdel test

The Founder

2017. Directed by John Lee Hancock, written by Robert Siegel.

The Bechdel test

Bechdel score

1 / 3

Fails

  1. Yes 1. At least two women
    17 women characters. 7 of them speak.
  2. No 2. Who talk to each other
    Our parser found no scene where two women talk to each other.
  3. No 3. About something besides a man
    Not reached: the film fails an earlier rule.

Second opinion

Not rated bechdeltest.com readers haven't rated this film.

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The film

1954. Having worked as a salesman most of his adult life, Ray Kroc has been a hustler in most senses of the word. That hustling has made him the target of derision among certain circles for peddling what have ended up being more novelty or faddish than useful products, but it has also placed more than a comfortable roof in Arlington Heights, Illinois over his and his wife Ethel's heads. Ethel, however, wishes that he placed as much effort into being at home with her as he does in selling; his current job of peddling five-spindle milkshake makers for Prince Castle which has him constantly on the road going from one drive-in restaurant to another. It is because of the beefs he has with the whole drive-in experience (bad food, bad service) in constantly eating at such establishments while on the road that he becomes enthralled with the concept of McDonald's Restaurant in San Bernardino, California, owned and operated by brothers Richard McDonald and Maurice McDonald - Dick and Mac. Unlike most of Ray's customers who will only require one five-spindle milkshake maker at any given time, the McDonald brothers end up purchasing eight machines for their single restaurant. Primarily on Dick's initiative, the brothers have redesigned the whole concept of the drive-in restaurant to focus on quality food through a smaller menu of only the most popular items (hamburgers, fries, sodas), consistency in product so that customers know what to expect from time to time, change in the target market from lounging teenagers to families, and perhaps most importantly speed in having any order ready within seconds, many of these goals achievable through assembly line styled production. They had tried franchising previously, but failed in that they lost control over many of those aspects which made their San Bernardino restaurant successful. Despite believing Ray a bit off kilter (in other words, crazy), the McDonald brothers somewhat hesitantly enter into a contract with him to be their head of franchising. Ray's experience in the job is not without its problems, especially as his franchisees seem to be making more money than he is, he who is only breaking even. He is not averse to advancing ideas provided to him to get ahead - original ideas which are not his forte - he seeing the brothers as his biggest problem in they thinking small. These differences lead to a standoff between Ray and the brothers, the former who has a different goal for "his" business in profit and stoking his own ego seemingly his main priorities.

Released
20 Jan 2017
Genres
Biography, Drama
Rated
PG-13
IMDb
7.2 / 10
Metascore
66 / 100
Awards
1 win & 5 nominations total
Elsewhere
View on IMDb

Starring, by lines spoken

  • Women
  • Men
  • Not in the cast list
  • Bigger name, more lines
  1. Ray Kroc 388 lines, man
  2. Dick Mcdonald 161 lines, man
  3. Mac Mcdonald 111 lines, man
  4. Ethel Kroc 44 lines, woman
  5. Joan Smith 36 lines, woman
  6. Rollie Smith 34 lines, man
  7. June Martino 30 lines, woman
  8. Harry Sonneborn 24 lines, man
  9. Harvey Peltz 13 lines, man
  10. Jerry Cullen 10 lines, man
Full cast, 47 people
  • Michael Keaton as Ray Kroc
  • Nick Offerman as Dick McDonald
  • John Carroll Lynch as Mac McDonald
  • Linda Cardellini as Joan Smith
  • B.J. Novak as Harry J. Sonneborn
  • Laura Dern as Ethel Kroc
  • Justin Randell Brooke as Fred Turner
  • Kate Kneeland as June Martino
  • Patrick Wilson as Rollie Smith
  • Griff Furst as Jim Zien
  • Wilbur Fitzgerald as Jerry Cullen
  • David de Vries as Jack Horford
  • Andrew Benator as Leonard Rosenblatt
  • Cara Mantella as Myra Rosenblatt
  • Randall Taylor as Owner (Ed's Drive-In)
  • Lacey King as Car Hop Girl (Ed's Drive-In)
  • Jeremy Madden as Dennis
  • Rebecca Ray as Car Hop Girl (Joe's Drive-In)
  • Adam Rosenberg as Employee (San Bernadino)
  • Jacinte Blankenship as Woman (San Bernadino)
  • Charles Green as Loan Officer #1
  • David Silverman as Loan Officer #2
  • Mike Pniewski as Harvey Peltz
  • Catherine Dyer as Mrs. Horford
  • Susan Savoie as Mrs. Cullen
  • Franco Castan as Art Wolodarsky
  • Kenny Alfonso as Kroc Corporate Lawyer
  • Kabby Borders as Cheerleader #1
  • Nicolette Goetz as Cheerleader #2
  • Lauren Denham as Cheerleader #3
  • Abbey Ferrell as Cheerleader #4
  • Justin Alvarez as Photographer
  • Victor McCay as Kroc Divorce Lawyer
  • Steve Coulter as Doctor Reeves
  • Ric Reitz as Will Davis (LA Times Reporter)
  • Joy Glover Walters as Mother (San Bernadino)
  • Makabe Ganey as Little Boy
  • Jody Thompson as Customer (Schaumburg)
  • Chris Greene as Grand Opening Customer
  • Kimberly Banta as Bingo Caller
  • Devon Ogden as Gorgeous Blonde
  • Gerald Duckworth as Owner (Joe's Drive-In)
  • Jen Cohen as Female Passenger
  • David Zyler as Dr. Nelson
  • Joseph Sanfelippo as McDonald's Announcer (voice)
  • Conrad Whitaker as Limo Driver (uncredited)
  • Afemo Omilami as Mr. Merriman (uncredited)

Who talks, scene by scene

Lines of dialogue in every 3 scenes, start to finish. Women above the line, men below. 3% of lines come from characters we couldn't match to the cast list and aren't shown.

Women

Men

Scene 1 Scene 125

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Show the numbers
ScenesWomen's linesMen's lines
1 to 302
4 to 659
7 to 903
10 to 1267
13 to 15021
16 to 18359
19 to 21012
22 to 24039
25 to 27015
28 to 30039
31 to 3300
34 to 361213
37 to 39010
40 to 42010
43 to 45022
46 to 48010
49 to 51631
52 to 54319
55 to 57211
58 to 60832
61 to 6379
64 to 66611
67 to 69810
70 to 7206
73 to 751353
76 to 78117
79 to 81054
82 to 8458
85 to 8726
88 to 901151
91 to 93035
94 to 96022
97 to 99118
100 to 102114
103 to 105910
106 to 108337
109 to 11106
112 to 114016
115 to 117022
118 to 120112
121 to 123031
124 to 125014

The evidence

  • Straight from the script
  • Counted from the script and the credits

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Exhibit A: every 100 lines

Out of every 100 lines with a known speaker, 13 are women's.

123 lines from women, 816 from men.

  • Women
  • Men

Exhibit B: who's in it

17 women and 30 men in the cast. 7 women and 23 men from it get lines.

Characters

With lines

  • Women
  • Men

Exhibit C: who gets heard

The first woman speaks at line 4 of 966. The longest stretch with no woman speaking runs 160 lines.

Every line of dialogue, first to last

  • First line by a woman
  • Longest stretch with no woman speaking

Words spoken

Women speak 10% of the words (863), men 90% (7,826). Women have 13% of the lines, so their lines run shorter than men's.

Exhibit D: the test the other way

Two named men talk to each other about something besides a woman. It passes the reverse test.

Conversations between two named characters

Exhibit E: behind the camera

1 of the 11 people in these jobs is a woman. Across the whole crew, 30% of the people whose gender is listed are women.

Directed by
John Lee Hancock (man)
Written by
Robert D. Siegel (man)
Produced by
Don Handfield (man), Jeremy Renner (man), Aaron Ryder (man)
Shot by
John Schwartzman (man)
Edited by
Robert Frazen (man)
Music by
Carter Burwell (man)
Production design by
Michael Corenblith (man)
Costumes by
Daniel Orlandi (man)
Cast by
Ronna Kress (woman)

The crew, department by department

  • Production

    6 women, 12 men, 10 not listed

  • Sound

    1 women, 11 men, 7 not listed

  • Camera

    1 women, 8 men, 6 not listed

  • Costume & Make-Up

    4 women, 4 men, 4 not listed

  • Art

    4 women, 2 men, 5 not listed

  • Other crew

    2 women, 0 men, 5 not listed

  • Editing

    0 women, 3 men, 3 not listed

  • Directing

    1 women, 3 men, 1 not listed

  • Women
  • Men
  • Gender not listed on TMDB

Exhibit F: how old the stars were

Women: 44 on average. Men: 47 on average. The top-billed cast, at the film's release.

Women

Linda Cardellini 41, Kate Kneeland 43, Laura Dern 49

Men

Griff Furst 35, B.J. Novak 37, Patrick Wilson 43, Nick Offerman 46, John Carroll Lynch 53, Michael Keaton 65

Exhibit G: the money

It made 1.6 times what it cost.

Budget
$15 million
Box office
$24.1 million

From TMDB, not adjusted for inflation.

About this analysis

Our parser read the script: 125 scenes and 966 lines of dialogue. How the test works

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