Fails the Bechdel test

Wise Guys

1986. Directed by Brian De Palma, written by George Gallo and Norman Steinberg.

The Bechdel test

Bechdel score

1 / 3

Fails

  1. Yes 1. At least two women
    11 women characters. 3 of them speak.
  2. No 2. Who talk to each other
    Our parser found no scene where two women talk to each other.
  3. No 3. About something besides a man
    Not reached: the film fails an earlier rule.

Second opinion

Not rated bechdeltest.com readers haven't rated this film.

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The film

Harry Valentini and Moe Dickstein are goons for the Newark mob boss Castelo. They are sent to the race track to place a bet on a horse but screw it up by betting on the wrong horse. Now they owe $250,000 but they separately get an offer to work it off; by killing the other one. Together they go off to Atlantic City where Harry's mobster uncle Mike may be able to bail them out.

Released
18 Apr 1986
Genres
Comedy, Crime
Rated
R
IMDb
5.6 / 10
Metascore
62 / 100
Elsewhere
View on IMDb

Starring, by lines spoken

  • Women
  • Men
  • Not in the cast list
  • Bigger name, more lines
  1. Harry 305 lines, man
  2. Moe 244 lines, man
  3. Frank The Fixer 67 lines, man
  4. Larosa 51 lines, man
  5. Bobby 29 lines, man
  6. Grandma 25 lines, woman
  7. Santo 18 lines, man
  8. Aunt Sadie 13 lines, woman
  9. Lil 13 lines, woman
  10. Marco 12 lines, man
Full cast, 54 people
  • Danny DeVito as Harry Valentini
  • Joe Piscopo as Moe Dickstein
  • Harvey Keitel as Bobby DiLea
  • Ray Sharkey as Marco
  • Dan Hedaya as Anthony Castelo
  • Louis Albano as Frank "The Fixer" Acavano
  • Julie Bovasso as Lil Dickstein
  • Patti LuPone as Wanda Valentini
  • Antonia Rey as Aunt Sadie
  • Mimi Cecchini as Grandma Valentini
  • Matthew Kaye as Harry Jr.
  • Tony Munafo as Santo Ravallo
  • Tony Rizzoli as Joey "New Shoes" Siclione
  • Frank Vincent as Louie Fontucci
  • Rick Petrucelli as Al the Bookie
  • Anthony Holland as Karl the Desk Clerk
  • Marcelino Rivera as Bellhop
  • Joseph Cipriano as Parking Valet
  • Julius Cristinzio as Roulette Operator
  • Dan Resin as Maitre d'
  • Alessandro Falcini as Priest
  • Jill Larson as Mrs. Fixer
  • Maria Pitillo as Massuese
  • Christine Poor as Massuese
  • Stephanie Quinn as Massuese
  • Cecilia I. Battaglini as Luggage Salesperson
  • Frank D. Formica as Pit Boss
  • Deborah Groen as Roulette Dealer
  • Bradley Neilson as Clothing Salesman
  • Maryellen Nugent as Jewelry Saleswoman
  • Frank Ferrara Sr. as Thug
  • Gaetano Lisi as Hood
  • Vince Pacimeo as Hood
  • Henry Stewart as Tailor
  • Carol Cass as Birthday Guest
  • Mary Engel as Birthday Guest
  • Bruce Katzman as Birthday Guest
  • Dayna Lee as Birthday Guest
  • Louisiana as Birthday Guest
  • Myles O'Connor as Birthday Guest
  • Don R. Richardson as Birthday Guest
  • Johnny George Sarno as Birthday Guest
  • Reuben Schafer as Birthday Guest
  • Catherine Scorsese as Birthday Guest
  • Charles Scorsese as Birthday Guest
  • Gary Cookson as Race Track Bettor
  • Kiya Ann Joyce as Race Track Bettor
  • Willow Hale as Race Track Bettor
  • Bob O'Connell as Race Track Bettor
  • Joe Schmieg as Race Track Bettor
  • Richardson Taylor as Race Track Bettor
  • Kim Delgado as FBI Agent (uncredited)
  • Larry Guardino as Race Track Bettor (uncredited)
  • Ned Martin as Gangster (uncredited)

Who talks, scene by scene

Lines of dialogue in every 4 scenes, start to finish. Women above the line, men below. 3% of lines come from characters we couldn't match to the cast list and aren't shown.

Women

Men

Scene 1 Scene 146

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Show the numbers
ScenesWomen's linesMen's lines
1 to 4514
5 to 81235
9 to 12044
13 to 16011
17 to 20120
21 to 24034
25 to 28067
29 to 32065
33 to 36024
37 to 40023
41 to 44053
45 to 48013
49 to 52010
53 to 5602
57 to 60016
61 to 6408
65 to 68113
69 to 7209
73 to 76022
77 to 80014
81 to 8400
85 to 8825
89 to 92433
93 to 961219
97 to 100827
101 to 1041033
105 to 108012
109 to 112034
113 to 11602
117 to 120016
121 to 124011
125 to 128013
129 to 13233
133 to 136023
137 to 14000
141 to 14406
145 to 146016

The evidence

  • Straight from the script
  • Counted from the script and the credits

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Exhibit A: every 100 lines

Out of every 100 lines with a known speaker, 7 are women's.

58 lines from women, 750 from men.

  • Women
  • Men

Exhibit B: who's in it

11 women and 19 men in the cast. 3 women and 12 men from it get lines.

Characters

With lines

  • Women
  • Men

Exhibit C: who gets heard

The first woman speaks at line 7 of 832. The longest stretch with no woman speaking runs 344 lines.

Every line of dialogue, first to last

  • First line by a woman
  • Longest stretch with no woman speaking

Words spoken

Women speak 6% of the words (528), men 94% (8,277). Women have 7% of the lines, so their lines run shorter than men's.

Exhibit D: the test the other way

Two named men talk to each other about something besides a woman. It passes the reverse test.

Conversations between two named characters

Exhibit E: behind the camera

1 of the 9 people in these jobs is a woman. Across the whole crew, 5% of the people whose gender is listed are women.

Directed by
Brian De Palma (man)
Written by
George Gallo (man)
Produced by
Aaron Russo (man)
Shot by
Fred Schuler (man)
Edited by
Gerald B. Greenberg (man)
Music by
Ira Newborn (man)
Production design by
Edward Pisoni (man)
Costumes by
Richard Bruno (man)
Cast by
Dianne Crittenden (woman)

The crew, department by department

  • Production

    1 women, 4 men, 2 not listed

  • Directing

    0 women, 4 men, 2 not listed

  • Art

    0 women, 4 men

  • Costume & Make-Up

    0 women, 3 men, 1 not listed

  • Other crew

    0 women, 2 men

  • Camera

    0 women, 1 men

  • Editing

    0 women, 1 men

  • Sound

    0 women, 1 men

  • Women
  • Men
  • Gender not listed on TMDB

Exhibit F: how old the stars were

Women: 50 on average. Men: 42 on average. The top-billed cast, at the film's release.

Women

Patti LuPone 36, Julie Bovasso 55, Antonia Rey 59

Men

Ray Sharkey 33, Joe Piscopo 34, Danny DeVito 41, Dan Hedaya 45, Harvey Keitel 46, Louis Albano 52

Exhibit G: the money

It made 65% of what it cost.

Budget
$13 million
Box office
$8.5 million

From TMDB, not adjusted for inflation.

About this analysis

Our parser read the script: 146 scenes and 832 lines of dialogue. How the test works

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