Fails the Bechdel test

8MM

1999. Directed by Joel Schumacher, written by Andrew Kevin Walker.

The Bechdel test

Bechdel score

1 / 3

Fails

  1. Yes 1. At least two women
    29 women characters. 5 of them speak.
  2. No 2. Who talk to each other
    Our parser found no scene where two women talk to each other.
  3. No 3. About something besides a man
    Not reached: the film fails an earlier rule.

Second opinion

Agree bechdeltest.com readers give it 1 out of 3.

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The film

A small, seemingly innocuous plastic reel of film leads surveillance specialist Tom Welles down an increasingly dark and frightening path. With the help of the streetwise Max, Welles relentlessly follows a bizarre trail of evidence to determine the fate of a complete stranger. As his work turns into obsession, he drifts farther and farther away from his wife, family and simple life as a small-town private eye.

Released
26 Feb 1999
Genres
Crime, Drama, Mystery
Rated
R
IMDb
6.6 / 10
Metascore
21 / 100
Awards
2 wins & 2 nominations total
Elsewhere
View on IMDb

Starring, by lines spoken

  • Women
  • Men
  • Not in the cast list
  • Bigger name, more lines
  1. Welles 361 lines, man
  2. Eddie 69 lines, man
  3. Max 64 lines, man
  4. Dino Velvet 55 lines, man
  5. Mrs Christian 47 lines, woman
  6. Mrs Mathews 44 lines, woman
  7. Amy 42 lines, woman
  8. Longdale 32 lines, man
  9. Mary 22 lines, woman
  10. Director 15 lines, man
Full cast, 53 people
  • Nicolas Cage as Tom Welles
  • Joaquin Phoenix as Max California
  • James Gandolfini as Eddie Poole
  • Peter Stormare as Dino Velvet
  • Anthony Heald as Longdale
  • Chris Bauer as Machine
  • Catherine Keener as Amy Welles
  • Myra Carter as Mrs. Christian
  • Amy Morton as Mrs. Mathews
  • Norman Reedus as Warren Anderson
  • Jenny Powell as Mary Ann Mathews
  • Anne Gee Byrd as Senator
  • Jack Betts as Butler
  • Luis Oropeza as Archive Director
  • Rachel Singer as Neighbor
  • Don Creech as Mr. Anderson
  • Fran Bennett as Nun
  • Wilma Bonet as Nun
  • Luis Saguar as Manny
  • Walter K. Jordan as Thug
  • Norm Compton as Thug
  • Brian Keith Russell as Thug
  • John Robb as Porn Dealer
  • Devan Brown as Flea Market Woman
  • Doris Brent as Machine's Mother
  • Robert Amico as Casting Director
  • Kiva Dawson as Girl in Hall
  • Eva Minemar as Girl in Hall
  • Rachel Wolfe as Girl in Hall
  • Suzy Nakamura as Computer Wizard
  • Torsten Voges as Stick
  • Tahitia Dean as Hollywood Prostitute
  • Texas Terri as Dino's Redhead
  • Vernon Guichard II as Porn Guy
  • Emily Patrick as Porn Girl
  • Nancy Vee as Porno Make-Up Artist
  • Lisa Cintrice as Topless Ticket Taker
  • Bridgett Vera as Ticket Taker
  • Jennifer Harris as Strip Club Dancer
  • Burton Richards as Strip Club Dancer
  • Jovanna Vitiello as Strip Club Dancer
  • David U. Hodges as Surveillance Man
  • William Lawrence Mack as Bouncer
  • Lorena M. Santos as Prostitute
  • Connie Mercurio as Nurse
  • William Buck as Mr. Christian
  • Kerry Corcoran as Cheating Son-in-Law
  • Mario Ernesto Sánchez as Taxi Driver
  • Claudia Aros as Miami Girlfriend
  • Ava Lee Scott as Girl in Lot (uncredited)
  • Carla Moon as Girl in Jacuzzi (uncredited)
  • Deborah Smith Ford as Dancer (uncredited)
  • Jacklyn Lick as Video Girl (uncredited)

Who talks, scene by scene

Lines of dialogue in every 6 scenes, start to finish. Women above the line, men below. 6% of lines come from characters we couldn't match to the cast list and aren't shown.

Women

Men

Scene 1 Scene 283

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Show the numbers
ScenesWomen's linesMen's lines
1 to 607
7 to 1210
13 to 18815
19 to 2434
25 to 303130
31 to 3634
37 to 4201
43 to 48128
49 to 5414
55 to 6004
61 to 6658
67 to 722825
73 to 7834
79 to 8410
85 to 9050
91 to 9660
97 to 10280
103 to 108223
109 to 114032
115 to 120136
121 to 1261915
127 to 13201
133 to 13802
139 to 14404
145 to 150033
151 to 15600
157 to 162623
163 to 168021
169 to 174055
175 to 180069
181 to 186061
187 to 19221
193 to 19823
199 to 2041924
205 to 21000
211 to 21604
217 to 222034
223 to 228012
229 to 234933
235 to 24000
241 to 24601
247 to 25205
253 to 25800
259 to 26400
265 to 27011
271 to 27611
277 to 28201
283 to 28312

The evidence

  • Straight from the script
  • Counted from the script and the credits

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Exhibit A: every 100 lines

Out of every 100 lines with a known speaker, 21 are women's.

167 lines from women, 631 from men.

  • Women
  • Men

Exhibit B: who's in it

29 women and 23 men in the cast. 5 women and 11 men from it get lines.

Characters

With lines

  • Women
  • Men

Exhibit C: who gets heard

The first woman speaks at line 8 of 849. The longest stretch with no woman speaking runs 214 lines.

Every line of dialogue, first to last

  • First line by a woman
  • Longest stretch with no woman speaking

Words spoken

Women speak 24% of the words (2,480), men 76% (7,995). Women have 21% of the lines, so their lines run longer than men's.

Exhibit D: the test the other way

Two named men talk to each other about something besides a woman. It passes the reverse test.

Conversations between two named characters

Exhibit E: behind the camera

3 of the 11 people in these jobs are women. Across the whole crew, 18% of the people whose gender is listed are women.

Directed by
Joel Schumacher (man)
Written by
Andrew Kevin Walker (man)
Produced by
Joel Schumacher (man), Judy Hofflund (woman), Gavin Polone (man)
Shot by
Robert Elswit (man)
Edited by
Mark Stevens (man)
Music by
Mychael Danna (man)
Production design by
Gary Wissner (man)
Costumes by
Mona May (woman)
Cast by
Mali Finn (woman)

The crew, department by department

  • Production

    8 women, 10 men, 12 not listed

  • Sound

    3 women, 14 men, 4 not listed

  • Art

    0 women, 9 men, 11 not listed

  • Other crew

    2 women, 16 men, 2 not listed

  • Costume & Make-Up

    1 women, 3 men, 7 not listed

  • Camera

    0 women, 4 men, 6 not listed

  • Lighting

    0 women, 5 men, 4 not listed

  • Directing

    0 women, 3 men, 3 not listed

  • Women
  • Men
  • Gender not listed on TMDB

Exhibit F: how old the stars were

Women: 49 on average. Men: 37 on average. The top-billed cast, at the film's release.

Women

Catherine Keener 39, Amy Morton 39, Myra Carter 69

Men

Joaquin Phoenix 24, Norman Reedus 30, Chris Bauer 32, Nicolas Cage 35, James Gandolfini 37, Peter Stormare 45, Anthony Heald 54

Exhibit G: the money

It made 2.4 times what it cost.

Budget
$40 million
Box office
$96.6 million

From TMDB, not adjusted for inflation.

About this analysis

Our parser read the script: 283 scenes and 849 lines of dialogue. The bechdeltest.com rating comes from that site’s readers. How the test works

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