Fails the Bechdel test

Creed

2015. Directed by Ryan Coogler, written by Ryan Coogler and Aaron Covington and Sylvester Stallone.

The Bechdel test

Bechdel score

1 / 3

Fails

  1. Yes 1. At least two women
    13 women characters. 4 of them speak.
  2. No 2. Who talk to each other
    Our parser found no scene where two women talk to each other.
  3. No 3. About something besides a man
    Not reached: the film fails an earlier rule.

Second opinion

Agree bechdeltest.com readers give it 2 out of 3.

Poster for Creed

The film

Adonis Johnson is the son of the famous boxing champion Apollo Creed, who died in a boxing match in Rocky IV (1985). Adonis wasn't born until after his father's death and wants to follow his fathers footsteps in boxing. He seeks a mentor who is the former heavyweight boxing champion and former friend of Apollo Creed, the retired Rocky Balboa. Rocky eventually agrees to mentor Adonis. With Rocky's help they hope to get a title job to face even deadlier opponents than his father. But whether he is a true fighter remains to be seen....

Released
25 Nov 2015
Genres
Action, Drama, Sport
Rated
PG-13
IMDb
7.6 / 10
Metascore
82 / 100
Awards
Nominated for 1 Oscar. 46 wins & 66 nominations total
Elsewhere
View on IMDb

Starring, by lines spoken

  • Women
  • Men
  • Not in the cast list
  • Bigger name, more lines
  1. Adonis 299 lines, man
  2. Rocky 214 lines, man
  3. Bianca 105 lines, woman
  4. Sporino 26 lines, man
  5. Dr. Shahani 22 lines, man
  6. Holiday 22 lines, man
  7. Lisa 19 lines
  8. Porter 16 lines, man
  9. Mary Anne 15 lines, woman
  10. Announcer 12 lines
Full cast, 79 people
  • Michael B. Jordan as Adonis Johnson
  • Sylvester Stallone as Rocky Balboa
  • Tessa Thompson as Bianca
  • Phylicia Rashād as Mary Anne Creed
  • Andre Ward as Danny 'Stuntman' Wheeler
  • Tony Bellew as 'Pretty' Ricky Conlan
  • Ritchie Coster as Pete Sporino
  • Jacob 'Stitch' Duran as Stitch
  • Graham McTavish as Tommy Holiday
  • Malik Bazille as Amir
  • Ricardo 'Padman' McGill as Padman
  • Gabriel Rosado as Leo 'The Lion' Sporino
  • Wood Harris as Tony 'Little Duke' Burton
  • Buddy Osborn as Conlan's Cut Man
  • Rupal Pujara as Dr. Kathari
  • Brian Anthony Wilson as James
  • Joey Eye as Sporino Cut Man
  • Johanna Tolentino as Lady Cop
  • Tony Brice as Tone Trump
  • Kash Goins as Larry
  • Michael Barker as Reporter
  • Clare O'Malley as Reporter
  • Kevin King Templeton as Press Conference Moderator
  • Roy James Wilson as City Jail Cop
  • Mauricio Ovalle as Flores' Trainer
  • Mark Rhino Smith as Conlan's Buddy
  • Josue Rivera as Tijuana Fight Promoter
  • Hans Marrero as Flores
  • Derrick Webster as Kev
  • Manny Ayala as Welterweight #1
  • Anthony Martins as Welterweight #2
  • Ricardo Vera as Referee #1 (Tijuana)
  • Shawn Clark as Referee #2 (Blue Horizon)
  • Christian D. Ellison as Referee #3 (Liverpool)
  • Frank Pesce as Mickey's Gym Doorman
  • Robert Sale as Leo Trainer #2
  • Richard Lyntton as Ringside Doctor
  • Kathleen M. Deegan as Nurse Kathy
  • Marquise Noel as Young Dirt Bike Rider
  • Liev Schreiber as HBO 24/7 Narrator (voice)
  • Elvis Grant as Elvis Grant
  • Max Kellerman as Max Kellerman
  • Jim Lampley as Jim Lampley
  • Michael Buffer as Michael Buffer
  • Michael Wilbon as Michael Wilbon
  • Tony Kornheiser as Anthony Kornheiser
  • Hannah Storm as Hannah Storm
  • Alex Henderson as Young Adonis
  • Khareem Hinton as Thomas
  • Noah Coogler as Staff Member #1
  • Nelson Bonilla as Staff Member #2
  • Troy Faruk as Staff Member #3
  • Angela Davis as Staff Member #4
  • Claire Bronson as Social Worker
  • Deborah Ingersoll as Max's Cashier
  • Robert Douglas as Max's Cook
  • Troy K. Weston as Max's Cook
  • Ludwig Göransson as Bianca's Band
  • Moses Sumney as Bianca's Band
  • Kenneth Martin as Dirt Bike Rider
  • Jermaine Holt as Dirt Bike Rider
  • Horace Knight Jr. as Dirt Bike Rider
  • Sli Lewis as Dirt Bike Rider
  • Brionna Maria Lynch as Dirt Bike Rider
  • Jalil Jay Lynch as Dirt Bike Rider
  • Zedric Harris as Security Guard
  • Christopher Jon Gombos as Security Guard
  • Jeff Ward as Concert Security
  • Terry Lee Fields II as Fire Breather
  • Stephen Chang as Asian Reporter (uncredited)
  • Charles W Harris III as Boxer (uncredited)
  • Rocky Ciarrocchi as Fan in Crowd (uncredited)
  • Oliver Burbage as Boxer (uncredited)
  • Maria Shamkalian as Ricky's Friend (uncredited)
  • Stefania Damiano as Ring Girl (uncredited)
  • Chandra Anderson as Ring Girl (uncredited)
  • Wain Jenkins as Spectator (uncredited)
  • Jesse Bradley as Reporter
  • Jeffrey Mowery as Ringside Photographer (uncredited)

Who talks, scene by scene

Lines of dialogue in every 4 scenes, start to finish. Women above the line, men below. 10% of lines come from characters we couldn't match to the cast list and aren't shown.

Women

Men

Scene 1 Scene 178

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Show the numbers
ScenesWomen's linesMen's lines
1 to 401
5 to 863
9 to 12411
13 to 1609
17 to 20534
21 to 2401
25 to 2801
29 to 32014
33 to 36049
37 to 4055
41 to 441119
45 to 4800
49 to 522121
53 to 56810
57 to 60056
61 to 64538
65 to 6808
69 to 72050
73 to 76018
77 to 80412
81 to 841632
85 to 881451
89 to 9258
93 to 9649
97 to 100031
101 to 10401
105 to 10811
109 to 11204
113 to 116216
117 to 12005
121 to 124027
125 to 12879
129 to 132021
133 to 13612
137 to 14020
141 to 14400
145 to 14808
149 to 15200
153 to 15600
157 to 160010
161 to 164011
165 to 168012
169 to 17212
173 to 176120
177 to 17801

The evidence

  • Straight from the script
  • Counted from the script and the credits

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Exhibit A: every 100 lines

Out of every 100 lines with a known speaker, 16 are women's.

123 lines from women, 641 from men.

  • Women
  • Men

Exhibit B: who's in it

13 women and 47 men in the cast. 4 women and 12 men from it get lines.

Characters

With lines

  • Women
  • Men

Exhibit C: who gets heard

The first woman speaks at line 4 of 849. The longest stretch with no woman speaking runs 97 lines.

Every line of dialogue, first to last

  • First line by a woman
  • Longest stretch with no woman speaking

Words spoken

Women speak 17% of the words (1,319), men 83% (6,552). Women have 16% of the lines, so their lines run longer than men's.

Exhibit D: the test the other way

Two named men talk to each other about something besides a woman. It passes the reverse test.

Conversations between two named characters

Exhibit E: behind the camera

6 of the 20 people in these jobs are women. Across the whole crew, 40% of the people whose gender is listed are women.

Directed by
Ryan Coogler (man)
Written by
Aaron Covington (man), Ryan Coogler (man)
Story by
Ryan Coogler (man)
Produced by
Irwin Winkler (man), William Chartoff (man), Sylvester Stallone (man), Charles Winkler (man), David Winkler (man), Robert Chartoff (man) and 1 more
Shot by
Maryse Alberti (woman)
Edited by
Michael P. Shawver (man), Claudia Castello (woman)
Music by
Ludwig Göransson (man)
Production design by
Hannah Beachler (woman)
Costumes by
Emma Potter (woman), Antoinette Messam (gender not listed)
Cast by
Francine Maisler (woman), Kathy Driscoll-Mohler (woman)

The crew, department by department

  • Visual Effects

    3 women, 5 men, 28 not listed

  • Camera

    2 women, 4 men, 27 not listed

  • Costume & Make-Up

    8 women, 2 men, 23 not listed

  • Production

    8 women, 11 men, 9 not listed

  • Art

    4 women, 6 men, 12 not listed

  • Sound

    3 women, 13 men, 2 not listed

  • Other crew

    2 women, 4 men, 11 not listed

  • Editing

    4 women, 2 men, 3 not listed

  • Women
  • Men
  • Gender not listed on TMDB

Exhibit F: how old the stars were

Women: 50 on average. Men: 44 on average. The top-billed cast, at the film's release.

Women

Tessa Thompson 32, Phylicia Rashād 67

Men

Malik Bazille 25, Michael B. Jordan 28, Andre Ward 31, Tony Bellew 32, Ritchie Coster 48, Graham McTavish 54, Jacob 'Stitch' Duran 63, Sylvester Stallone 69

Exhibit G: the money

It made 4.7 times what it cost.

Budget
$37 million
Box office
$174 million

From TMDB, not adjusted for inflation.

About this analysis

Our parser read the script: 178 scenes and 849 lines of dialogue. The bechdeltest.com rating comes from that site’s readers. How the test works

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