Fails the Bechdel test
Creed II
2018. Directed by Steven Caple Jr., written by Juel Taylor and Sylvester Stallone and Sascha Penn.
The Bechdel test
Bechdel score
2 / 3
Fails
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Yes
1. At least two women
9 women characters. 2 of them speak. -
Yes
2. Who talk to each other
Women do talk to each other. -
No
3. About something besides a man
Every conversation between women that our parser found mentions a man.
Second opinion
Disagree bechdeltest.com readers give it 3 out of 3.
The film
Years after Adonis Creed made a name for himself under Rocky Balboa's mentorship, the young boxer becomes the Heavyweight Champion of the World. While life is good with that victory and his marriage to Bianca, trouble comes to Philadelphia when Ivan Drago, the Russian boxer who killed Adonis' father, Apollo, arrives with his son, Viktor, to challenge Adonis. Against Rocky's advice, Adonis accepts the challenge without his mentor's participation and pays the price in a punishing bout he wins only by a technicality. Now injured and demoralized, Adonis cannot bring himself to back into the game, leaving his spirit and title in jeopardy. Together, Adonis' family and Rocky must find a way to rekindle Adonis' fighting spirit to face the future in whatever choice he makes. Meanwhile, the Drago family have its own troubles trying to regain the respect in their homeland that they lost at Rocky's hands as they wonder whether is it truly worth it.
- Released
- 21 Nov 2018
- Genres
- Action, Drama, Sport
- Rated
- PG-13
- IMDb
- 7.1 / 10
- Metascore
- 66 / 100
- Awards
- 1 win & 12 nominations total
- Elsewhere
- View on IMDb
Starring, by lines spoken
- Women
- Men
- Not in the cast list
- Bigger name, more lines
- Rocky 180 lines, man
- Adonis 163 lines, man
- Bianca 75 lines, woman
- Anthony 69 lines, man
- Commentator #1 53 lines
- Drago 41 lines, man
- Vitor 40 lines, man
- Robert 38 lines, man
- Commentator #2 26 lines
- Buddy 23 lines, man
Full cast, 70 people
- Michael B. Jordan as Adonis Johnson
- Sylvester Stallone as Rocky Balboa
- Tessa Thompson as Bianca
- Wood Harris as Tony 'Little Duke' Evers
- Russell Hornsby as Buddy Marcelle
- Phylicia Rashād as Mary Anne Creed
- Dolph Lundgren as Ivan Drago
- Florian Munteanu as Viktor Drago
- Andre Ward as Danny 'Stuntman' Wheeler
- Brigitte Nielsen as Ludmilla Drago
- Milo Ventimiglia as Robert Balboa
- Robbie Johns as Logan Balboa
- Patrice Harris as Padman
- Jacob 'Stitch' Duran as Stitch
- Ana Gerena as Adrian's Waitress
- Benjamin Vaynshelboym as Construction Supervisor (Russian)
- Angelina Shipilina as Debutante (Russian)
- Pavel Vakunov as Russian Politician
- Oleg Ivanov as Businessman (Russian)
- Christopher Mann as Dr. Percy Ewell
- Robert Douglas as Kyri
- Zack Beyer as Photographer
- Chrisdine King as Casino Bartender
- James Collins Jr. as Sports Bar Patron
- John Jezior as Stage Manager / Barclays Center
- Pete Postiglione as Reporter
- Billy Vargus as Reporter
- Johanna Tolentino as Pharmacist
- Eleni Delopoulos as Nurse
- Marcia Myers as Obstetrics Nurse
- Emily-Grace Murray as Nurse (Testing Room)
- Corey Calliet as Corner Man
- Robert Sale as Corner Man
- Hendrix McDaniel as Newborn Amara
- Maverick McDaniel as Newborn Amara
- Paris Michael Cunningham as Age 4 Months Amara
- Kenny Bayless as Referee Kenny Bayless
- Ivo Nandi as Russian Referee
- Dmitry Torgovitsky as Ukranian Referee
- Michael Buffer as Michael Buffer
- Jim Lampley as Jim Lampley
- Max Kellerman as Max Kellerman
- Roy Jones Jr. as Roy Jones Jr.
- Scott Van Pelt as Scott Van Pelt
- Linda Cohn as Linda Cohn
- Bibi Bourelly as Bianca's Backup Singer
- Rocky Ciarrocchi as Russian Fan in Crowd (uncredited)
- Toby Kearton as Talkshow Audience Member (uncredited)
- Charles W Harris III as Adonis Creed Bodyguard (uncredited)
- Oliver Burbage as DelPhi Gym Boxer (uncredited)
- Alexander Alayon Jr. as Boxer in Desert Scene (uncredited)
- Gary Ayash as Reporter
- Isabella Armina as VIP Spectator
- Neil Baltus as Russian VIP Spectator
- Stephen C. Bortsalas as VIP Spectator
- Amanda Cerny as Actress
- Jill Chestnut as Boxing Match Spectator
- Josh Christensen as Spectator
- Daniel C. Davis as VIP Spectator
- Sergio Delavicci as Versace Polo
- JaQuinley Kerr as VIP Spectator
- Marty Krzywonos as Fight Bell Ringer
- Mark Marcarian as Spectator
- Mark Montalbano as Scorekeeper
- Bandit The Rapper as Boxing Spectator (uncredited)
- Lindsay Michelle Reed as Night Club Goer (uncredited)
- Matthew Michael Hoffman as VIP Spectator
- Sumier Mention as Adonis Creed Entourage
- Jeffrey Mowery as Photographer (uncredited)
- Mark P Galbraith as VIP Russian Row Press
Who talks, scene by scene
Lines of dialogue in every 5 scenes, start to finish. Women above the line, men below. 18% of lines come from characters we couldn't match to the cast list and aren't shown.
Women
Men
Scene 1 Scene 200
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Show the numbers
| Scenes | Women's lines | Men's lines |
|---|---|---|
| 1 to 5 | 1 | 7 |
| 6 to 10 | 0 | 1 |
| 11 to 15 | 1 | 4 |
| 16 to 20 | 4 | 19 |
| 21 to 25 | 12 | 38 |
| 26 to 30 | 6 | 11 |
| 31 to 35 | 12 | 13 |
| 36 to 40 | 12 | 25 |
| 41 to 45 | 0 | 5 |
| 46 to 50 | 16 | 42 |
| 51 to 55 | 3 | 20 |
| 56 to 60 | 4 | 41 |
| 61 to 65 | 0 | 115 |
| 66 to 70 | 1 | 6 |
| 71 to 75 | 1 | 19 |
| 76 to 80 | 3 | 17 |
| 81 to 85 | 0 | 14 |
| 86 to 90 | 6 | 17 |
| 91 to 95 | 2 | 25 |
| 96 to 100 | 0 | 0 |
| 101 to 105 | 4 | 5 |
| 106 to 110 | 1 | 30 |
| 111 to 115 | 0 | 19 |
| 116 to 120 | 0 | 0 |
| 121 to 125 | 0 | 0 |
| 126 to 130 | 0 | 0 |
| 131 to 135 | 0 | 0 |
| 136 to 140 | 0 | 0 |
| 141 to 145 | 0 | 2 |
| 146 to 150 | 0 | 0 |
| 151 to 155 | 0 | 2 |
| 156 to 160 | 0 | 10 |
| 161 to 165 | 0 | 7 |
| 166 to 170 | 1 | 15 |
| 171 to 175 | 0 | 11 |
| 176 to 180 | 0 | 7 |
| 181 to 185 | 2 | 4 |
| 186 to 190 | 0 | 23 |
| 191 to 195 | 1 | 4 |
| 196 to 200 | 1 | 13 |
The evidence
- Straight from the script
- Counted from the script and the credits
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Exhibit A: every 100 lines
Out of every 100 lines with a known speaker, 14 are women's.
94 lines from women, 591 from men.
- Women
- Men
Exhibit B: who's in it
9 women and 33 men in the cast. 2 women and 12 men from it get lines.
Characters
With lines
- Women
- Men
Exhibit C: who gets heard
The first woman speaks at line 11 of 836.
The longest stretch with no woman speaking runs 171 lines.
Every line of dialogue, first to last
- First line by a woman
- Longest stretch with no woman speaking
Words spoken
Women speak 12% of the words (831), men 88% (6,217). Women have 14% of the lines, so their lines run shorter than men's.
Exhibit D: the test the other way
Two named men talk to each other about something besides a woman. It passes the reverse test.
Conversations between two named characters
Two women
2
Two men
62
Exhibit E: behind the camera
4 of the 22 people in these jobs are women.
Across the whole crew, 39% of the people whose gender is listed are women.
- Directed by
- Steven Caple Jr. (man)
- Written by
- Sylvester Stallone (man), Juel Taylor (man)
- Story by
- Cheo Hodari Coker (man), Sascha Penn (man)
- Produced by
- Sylvester Stallone (man), William Chartoff (man), Ian Sharples (man), Kevin King Templeton (man), Charles Winkler (man), David Winkler (man) and 1 more
- Shot by
- Kramer Morgenthau (man)
- Edited by
- Dana E. Glauberman (woman), Saira Haider (gender not listed), Paul Harb (gender not listed)
- Music by
- Ludwig Göransson (man)
- Production design by
- Franco-Giacomo Carbone (man)
- Costumes by
- Lizz Wolf (gender not listed)
- Cast by
- Nanw Rowlands (woman), Lindsay Graham Ahanonu (woman), Mary Vernieu (woman)
The crew, department by department
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Visual Effects
8 women, 5 men, 35 not listed
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Camera
4 women, 6 men, 31 not listed
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Sound
7 women, 20 men, 13 not listed
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Production
8 women, 12 men, 16 not listed
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Art
5 women, 9 men, 17 not listed
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Costume & Make-Up
4 women, 2 men, 22 not listed
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Other crew
0 women, 5 men, 7 not listed
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Lighting
1 women, 1 men, 10 not listed
- Women
- Men
- Gender not listed on TMDB
Exhibit F: how old the stars were
Women: 53 on average. Men: 46 on average.
The top-billed cast, at the film's release.
Women
Tessa Thompson 35, Brigitte Nielsen 55, Phylicia Rashād 70
Men
Florian Munteanu 28, Michael B. Jordan 31, Andre Ward 34, Russell Hornsby 44, Wood Harris 49, Dolph Lundgren 61, Sylvester Stallone 72
Exhibit G: the money
It made 4.3 times what it cost.
- Budget
- $50 million
- Box office
- $214 million
From TMDB, not adjusted for inflation.
About this analysis
Our parser read the script: 200 scenes and 836 lines of dialogue. The bechdeltest.com rating comes from that site’s readers. How the test works
