Fails the Bechdel test

Joker

2019. Directed by Todd Phillips, written by Todd Phillips and Scott Silver and Bob Kane.

The Bechdel test

Bechdel score

1 / 3

Fails

  1. Yes 1. At least two women
    16 women characters. 3 of them speak.
  2. No 2. Who talk to each other
    Our parser found no scene where two women talk to each other.
  3. No 3. About something besides a man
    Not reached: the film fails an earlier rule.

Second opinion

Disagree bechdeltest.com readers give it 3 out of 3, though someone marked that rating as dubious.

Poster for Joker

The film

A socially inept clown for hire - Arthur Fleck aspires to be a stand up comedian among his small job working dressed as a clown holding a sign for advertising. He takes care of his mother, Penny Fleck, and as he learns more about his mental illness, he learns more about his past. Dealing with all the negativity and bullying from society, he heads downwards on a spiral, in turn showing how his alter ego, "Joker," came to be.

Released
04 Oct 2019
Genres
Drama
Rated
R
IMDb
8.3 / 10
Metascore
59 / 100
Awards
Won 2 Oscars. 120 wins & 247 nominations total
Elsewhere
View on IMDb

Starring, by lines spoken

  • Women
  • Men
  • Not in the cast list
  • Bigger name, more lines
  1. Joker 262 lines, man
  2. Sophie 49 lines, woman
  3. Mom 46 lines, woman
  4. Murray Franklin 42 lines, man
  5. Randall 28 lines, man
  6. Social Worker 24 lines, woman
  7. Hoyt 16 lines, man
  8. Thomas Wayne 16 lines, man
  9. Det. Garrity 13 lines, man
  10. Clerk 12 lines, man
Full cast, 80 people
  • Joaquin Phoenix as Arthur Fleck
  • Robert De Niro as Murray Franklin
  • Zazie Beetz as Sophie Dumond
  • Frances Conroy as Penny Fleck
  • Brett Cullen as Thomas Wayne
  • Shea Whigham as Detective Burke
  • Bill Camp as Detective Garrity
  • Glenn Fleshler as Randall
  • Leigh Gill as Gary
  • Josh Pais as Hoyt Vaughn
  • Rocco Luna as GiGi Dumond
  • Marc Maron as Gene Ufland
  • Sondra James as Dr. Sally
  • Murphy Guyer as Barry O'Donnell
  • Douglas Hodge as Alfred Pennyworth
  • Dante Pereira-Olson as Bruce Wayne
  • Carrie Louise Putrello as Martha Wayne
  • Sharon Washington as Social Worker
  • Hannah Gross as Young Penny
  • Frank Wood as Dr. Stoner
  • Brian Tyree Henry as Carl (Arkham Clerk)
  • April Grace as Arkham Psychiatrist
  • Mick Szal as Woman on Subway
  • Carl Lundstedt as Wall Street Three
  • Michael Benz as Wall Street Three
  • Ben Warheit as Wall Street Three
  • Gary Gulman as Comedian
  • Sam Morril as Open Mic Comic
  • Chris Redd as Comedy Club Emcee
  • Mandela Bellamy as Mother on Bus
  • Demetrius Dotson II as Boy on Bus
  • Greer Barnes as Haha's Clown
  • Ray Iannicelli as Haha's Clown
  • Bryan Callen as Haha's Stripper
  • Peter Hans Benson as Good Morning Host
  • Vito Gerbino as Street Kid
  • Adam Quezada as Street Kid
  • Xavyer Ureña as Street Kid
  • Evan Rosado as Street Kid
  • Damian Emmanuel as Street Kid
  • Mike Troll as Clown Protestor
  • Jane Fergus as IBN Anchorwoman
  • David Gibson as WBC News Anchor
  • Tony D. Head as WGC Anchorman
  • Jeff McCarthy as NCB Anchor
  • Kim Brockington as NCB Co-Anchor
  • Troy Roberts as NCB News Reporter
  • Lou Young as ANC News Reporter
  • Michael-Scott Druckenmiller as Paramedic
  • Craig Austin as Paramedic
  • John Cenatiempo as Aftermath Police Officer
  • Danny Schoch as Aftermath Police Officers
  • Keith Buterbaugh as Band Leader
  • James Ciccone as Murray Franklin Band
  • Rich Campbell as Murray Franklin Band
  • Roger Squitero as Murray Franklin Band
  • Steven Elson as Murray Franklin Band
  • Graham Mabry as Murray Franklin Band
  • John Alldred as Murray Franklin Band
  • Alonzo Wright as Murray Franklin Band
  • Jack Wilkins as Murray Franklin Band
  • Richard Baratta as Murray Franklin Band
  • Mary Kate Malat as Murray Franklin Intern
  • Adrienne Acevedo Lovette as Middle Aged Woman (uncredited)
  • Justin Theroux as Ethan Chase (uncredited)
  • Alissa Bourne as Anna (uncredited)
  • Jamaal Burcher as Hospital Visitor / Mfs Audience (uncredited)
  • John Cashin as Arkham Patient (uncredited)
  • Jason John Cicalese as Protester / Rioter (uncredited)
  • Brendan Patrick Connor as Mr. Slotnick (uncredited)
  • Blaise Corrigan as Taxi Driver (uncredited)
  • Dennis Jay Funny as Gotham Citizen (uncredited)
  • James P. Harkins as Thomas Wayne's Body Guard (uncredited)
  • Joseph Hernandez as Protester / Rioter (uncredited)
  • Ben Heyman as Protestor (uncredited)
  • Graham Maby as Murray Franklin Band (uncredited)
  • Jesse Schratz as Gotham City Sick Kid (uncredited)
  • Isabella Ferreira as Flirting Woman on the Bus (uncredited)
  • Shade Rupe as Bartender (uncredited)
  • Michael Lepre as Arkham Insane Patient (uncredited)

Who talks, scene by scene

Lines of dialogue in every 3 scenes, start to finish. Women above the line, men below. 6% of lines come from characters we couldn't match to the cast list and aren't shown.

Women

Men

Scene 1 Scene 129

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Show the numbers
ScenesWomen's linesMen's lines
1 to 31717
4 to 631
7 to 985
10 to 121311
13 to 15023
16 to 18013
19 to 2100
22 to 24109
25 to 2715
28 to 3000
31 to 33711
34 to 3603
37 to 39135
40 to 4202
43 to 451514
46 to 481016
49 to 512724
52 to 54027
55 to 57014
58 to 6000
61 to 63035
64 to 66011
67 to 6900
70 to 72019
73 to 7501
76 to 78020
79 to 8154
82 to 8459
85 to 87112
88 to 90018
91 to 93018
94 to 9601
97 to 9902
100 to 10201
103 to 10500
106 to 108127
109 to 11105
112 to 114122
115 to 11704
118 to 120017
121 to 12304
124 to 12600
127 to 129016

The evidence

  • Straight from the script
  • Counted from the script and the credits

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Exhibit A: every 100 lines

Out of every 100 lines with a known speaker, 21 are women's.

125 lines from women, 476 from men.

  • Women
  • Men

Exhibit B: who's in it

16 women and 63 men in the cast. 3 women and 21 men from it get lines.

Characters

With lines

  • Women
  • Men

Exhibit C: who gets heard

The first woman speaks at line 2 of 638. The longest stretch with no woman speaking runs 133 lines.

Every line of dialogue, first to last

  • First line by a woman
  • Longest stretch with no woman speaking

Words spoken

Women speak 19% of the words (1,374), men 81% (5,811). Women have 21% of the lines, so their lines run shorter than men's.

Exhibit D: the test the other way

Two named men talk to each other about something besides a woman. It passes the reverse test.

Conversations between two named characters

Exhibit E: behind the camera

3 of the 12 people in these jobs are women. Across the whole crew, 32% of the people whose gender is listed are women.

Directed by
Todd Phillips (man)
Written by
Scott Silver (man), Todd Phillips (man)
Produced by
Emma Tillinger Koskoff (woman), Todd Phillips (man), Bradley Cooper (man)
Shot by
Lawrence Sher (man)
Edited by
Jeff Groth (man)
Music by
Hildur Guðnadóttir (woman)
Production design by
Mark Friedberg (man)
Costumes by
Mark Bridges (man)
Cast by
Shayna Markowitz (woman)

The crew, department by department

  • Production

    17 women, 16 men, 9 not listed

  • Art

    9 women, 9 men, 21 not listed

  • Other crew

    4 women, 22 men, 12 not listed

  • Sound

    5 women, 24 men, 6 not listed

  • Costume & Make-Up

    8 women, 6 men, 11 not listed

  • Camera

    2 women, 10 men, 8 not listed

  • Visual Effects

    0 women, 5 men, 6 not listed

  • Lighting

    0 women, 4 men, 4 not listed

  • Women
  • Men
  • Gender not listed on TMDB

Exhibit F: how old the stars were

Women: 47 on average. Men: 54 on average. The top-billed cast, at the film's release.

Women

Zazie Beetz 28, Frances Conroy 66

Men

Leigh Gill 39, Joaquin Phoenix 44, Shea Whigham 50, Glenn Fleshler 51, Bill Camp 54, Josh Pais 55, Brett Cullen 63, Robert De Niro 76

Exhibit G: the money

It made 19.6 times what it cost.

Budget
$55 million
Box office
$1.1 billion

From TMDB, not adjusted for inflation.

About this analysis

Our parser read the script: 129 scenes and 638 lines of dialogue. The bechdeltest.com rating comes from that site’s readers. How the test works

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