Fails the Bechdel test

Reds

1981. Directed by Warren Beatty, written by Warren Beatty and Trevor Griffiths.

The Bechdel test

Bechdel score

2 / 3

Fails

  1. Yes 1. At least two women
    13 women characters. 5 of them speak.
  2. Yes 2. Who talk to each other
    Women do talk to each other.
  3. No 3. About something besides a man
    Every conversation between women that our parser found mentions a man.

Second opinion

Disagree bechdeltest.com readers give it 3 out of 3.

Poster for Reds

The film

American journalist John Reed journeys to Russia to document the Bolshevik Revolution and returns a revolutionary. His fervor for left-wing politics leads him to Louise Bryant, then married, who will become a feminist icon and activist. Politics at home become more complicated as the rift grows between reality and Reed's ideals. Bryant takes up with a cynical playwright, and Reed returns to Russia, where his health declines.

Released
25 Dec 1981
Genres
Biography, Drama, History
Rated
PG
IMDb
7.3 / 10
Metascore
76 / 100
Awards
Won 3 Oscars. 25 wins & 41 nominations total
Elsewhere
View on IMDb

Starring, by lines spoken

  • Women
  • Men
  • Not in the cast list
  • Bigger name, more lines
  1. Jack 323 lines, man
  2. Louise 297 lines, woman
  3. Emma 42 lines, woman
  4. O'Neill 42 lines, man
  5. Zinoviev 16 lines, man
  6. Whigham 13 lines, man
  7. Vasili Ev 11 lines
  8. Man 9 lines, man
  9. Max 9 lines, man
  10. Pete 9 lines, man
Full cast, 85 people
  • Warren Beatty as John Reed
  • Diane Keaton as Louise Bryant
  • Edward Herrmann as Max Eastman
  • Jerzy Kosiński as Grigory Zinoviev
  • Jack Nicholson as Eugene O'Neill
  • Paul Sorvino as Louis Fraina
  • Maureen Stapleton as Emma Goldman
  • Nicolas Coster as Paul Trullinger
  • M. Emmet Walsh as Speaker at Liberal Club
  • Ian Wolfe as Mr. Partlow
  • Bessie Love as Mrs. Partlow
  • MacIntyre Dixon as Carl Walters
  • Pat Starr as Helen Walters
  • Eleanor D. Wilson as Mrs. Reed
  • Max Wright as Floyd Dell
  • George Plimpton as Horace Whigham
  • Harry Ditson as Maurice Becker
  • Leigh Curran as Ida Rauh
  • Kathryn Grody as Crystal Eastman
  • Brenda Currin as Marjorie Jones
  • Nancy Duiguid as Jane Heap
  • Norman Chancer as Barney
  • Dolph Sweet as Big Bill Haywood
  • Ramon Bieri as Police Chief
  • Jack O'Leary as Pinkerton Guard
  • Gene Hackman as Pete van Wherry
  • Gerald Hiken as Dr. Lorber
  • William Daniels as Julius Gerber
  • Dave King as Allan Benson
  • Joseph Buloff as Joe Volski
  • Stefan Gryff as Alex Gomberg
  • Denis Pekarev as Interpreter in Factory
  • Roger Sloman as Vladimir I. Lenin
  • Stuart Richman as Leon Trotsky
  • Oleg Kerensky as Alexander Kerensky / Himself - Witness
  • Nikko Seppala as Young Bolshevik Soldier
  • John J. Hooker as Senator Overman
  • Shane Rimmer as MacAlpine
  • Jerry Hardin as Harry
  • Jack Kehoe as Eddie
  • Christopher Malcolm as CLP Party Member #1
  • Tony Sibbald as CLP Party Member #2
  • R.G. Armstrong as Government Agent
  • Josef Sommer as State Department Official
  • Jan Tříska as Karl Radek
  • Åke Lindman as Scandinavian Escort
  • Pertti Weckström as Finnish Doctor
  • Nina Macarova as Russian Nurse
  • Jose De Fillippo as Russian Doctor
  • Andreas La Casa as Little Boy
  • Roger Baldwin as Himself - Witness
  • Henry Miller as Himself - Witness
  • Adela Rogers St. Johns as Herself - Witness
  • Dora Russell as Herself - Witness
  • Scott Nearing as Himself - Witness
  • Tess Davis as Herself - Witness
  • Heaton Vorse as Herself - Witness
  • Hamilton Fish as Himself - Witness
  • Isaac Don Levine as Himself - Witness
  • Rebecca West as Herself - Witness
  • Will Durant as Himself - Witness
  • Will Weinstone as Himself - Witness
  • Emmanuel Herbert as Himself - Witness
  • Arne Swabeck as Himself - Witness
  • Adele Gutman Nathan as Herself - Witness
  • George Seldes as Himself - Witness
  • Kenneth Chamberlain as Himself - Witness
  • Blanche Hays Fagen as Herself - Witness
  • Galina von Meck as Herself - Witness
  • Art Shields as Himself - Witness
  • Andrew Dasburg as Himself - Witness
  • Hugo Gellert as Himself - Witness
  • Dorothy Frooks as Herself - Witness
  • George Jessel as Himself - Witness
  • Jacob Bailin as Himself - Witness
  • John Ballato as Himself - Witness
  • Lucita Williams as Herself - Witness
  • Bernadine Szold-Fritz as Herself - Witness
  • Jessica Smith as Herself - Witness
  • Harry Carlisle as Himself - Witness
  • Arthur Mayer as Himself - Witness
  • Miriam Margolyes as Woman with Notebook (uncredited)
  • John Ratzenberger as Communist Leader (uncredited)
  • Simon Jones as Louise Bryant's Colleague in France (uncredited)
  • Jill Goldston as Dancing Woman (uncredited)

Who talks, scene by scene

Lines of dialogue in every 3 scenes, start to finish. Women above the line, men below. 12% of lines come from characters we couldn't match to the cast list and aren't shown.

Women

Men

Scene 1 Scene 113

Hover, tap or tab to a bar to see those scenes: where they happen and who's talking.

Show the numbers
ScenesWomen's linesMen's lines
1 to 300
4 to 66048
7 to 92023
10 to 122426
13 to 15012
16 to 1815
19 to 211114
22 to 241915
25 to 273133
28 to 301723
31 to 3334
34 to 362623
37 to 3902
40 to 42116
43 to 451926
46 to 48611
49 to 5146
52 to 54112
55 to 5714
58 to 6024
61 to 63152
64 to 661434
67 to 6902
70 to 7203
73 to 751217
76 to 78211
79 to 8102
82 to 84411
85 to 871214
88 to 90626
91 to 93013
94 to 96810
97 to 9958
100 to 10200
103 to 1053311
106 to 1081419
109 to 11100
112 to 11330

The evidence

  • Straight from the script
  • Counted from the script and the credits

Tap an exhibit to open it.

Exhibit A: every 100 lines

Out of every 100 lines with a known speaker, 43 are women's.

374 lines from women, 490 from men.

  • Women
  • Men

Exhibit B: who's in it

13 women and 40 men in the cast. 5 women and 19 men from it get lines.

Characters

With lines

  • Women
  • Men

Exhibit C: who gets heard

A woman speaks the first line. The longest stretch with no woman speaking runs 48 lines.

Every line of dialogue, first to last

  • First line by a woman
  • Longest stretch with no woman speaking

Words spoken

Women speak 38% of the words (3,698), men 62% (6,100). Women have 43% of the lines, so their lines run shorter than men's.

Exhibit D: the test the other way

Two named men talk to each other about something besides a woman. It passes the reverse test.

Conversations between two named characters

Exhibit E: behind the camera

8 of the 20 people in these jobs are women. Across the whole crew, 23% of the people whose gender is listed are women.

Directed by
Warren Beatty (man)
Written by
Warren Beatty (man), Trevor Griffiths (man), Elaine May (woman)
Produced by
Warren Beatty (man)
Shot by
Vittorio Storaro (man)
Edited by
Dede Allen (woman), Craig McKay (man)
Music by
Stephen Sondheim (man), Dave Grusin (man)
Production design by
Richard Sylbert (man)
Costumes by
Shirley Russell (woman)
Cast by
Patsy Pollock (woman), Noel Davis (man), Marion Dougherty (woman), Gretchen Rennell (woman), Kathy Talbert (gender not listed), Jane Jenkins (woman) and 2 more

The crew, department by department

  • Sound

    1 women, 17 men, 19 not listed

  • Production

    7 women, 11 men, 11 not listed

  • Editing

    6 women, 8 men, 5 not listed

  • Costume & Make-Up

    4 women, 6 men, 8 not listed

  • Directing

    2 women, 14 men, 2 not listed

  • Art

    1 women, 10 men, 6 not listed

  • Other crew

    1 women, 2 men, 10 not listed

  • Camera

    0 women, 5 men, 7 not listed

  • Women
  • Men
  • Gender not listed on TMDB

Exhibit F: how old the stars were

Women: 46 on average. Men: 49 on average. The top-billed cast, at the film's release.

Women

Diane Keaton 35, Maureen Stapleton 56

Men

Edward Herrmann 38, Paul Sorvino 42, Warren Beatty 44, Jack Nicholson 44, M. Emmet Walsh 46, Nicolas Coster 47, Jerzy Kosiński 48, Ian Wolfe 85

Exhibit G: the money

It made 1.2 times what it cost.

Budget
$35 million
Box office
$40.4 million

From TMDB, not adjusted for inflation.

About this analysis

Our parser read the script: 113 scenes and 987 lines of dialogue. The bechdeltest.com rating comes from that site’s readers. How the test works

Related films

Back to the whole shelf