Fails the Bechdel test

They Live

1988. Directed by John Carpenter, written by Ray Nelson and John Carpenter.

The Bechdel test

Bechdel score

1 / 3

Fails

  1. Yes 1. At least two women
    13 women characters. 8 of them speak.
  2. No 2. Who talk to each other
    Our parser found no scene where two women talk to each other.
  3. No 3. About something besides a man
    Not reached: the film fails an earlier rule.

Second opinion

Agree bechdeltest.com readers give it 0 out of 3.

Poster for They Live

The film

Nada, a down-on-his-luck construction worker, discovers a pair of special sunglasses. Wearing them, he is able to see the world as it really is: people being bombarded by media and government with messages like "Stay Asleep," "No Imagination," "Submit to Authority." Even scarier is that he is able to see that some usually normal-looking people are in fact ugly aliens in charge of the massive campaign to keep humans subdued.

Released
04 Nov 1988
Genres
Action, Horror, Sci-Fi
Rated
R
IMDb
7.2 / 10
Metascore
55 / 100
Awards
4 nominations total
Elsewhere
View on IMDb

Starring, by lines spoken

  • Women
  • Men
  • Not in the cast list
  • Bigger name, more lines
  1. Nada 122 lines, man
  2. Frank 49 lines, man
  3. Drifter 31 lines, man
  4. Holly 24 lines, woman
  5. Gilbert 21 lines, man
  6. Bearded-Man 11 lines, man
  7. Street Preacher 9 lines, man
  8. Family Man 8 lines, man
  9. Female Voice 5 lines, woman
  10. Foreman 4 lines, man
Full cast, 48 people
  • Roddy Piper as John Nada
  • Keith David as Frank Armitage
  • Meg Foster as Holly Thompsen
  • George Buck Flower as Drifter
  • Peter Jason as Gilbert
  • Raymond St. Jacques as Street Preacher
  • Jason Robards III as Family Man
  • John Lawrence as Bearded Man
  • Susan Barnes as Brown Haired Woman
  • Sy Richardson as Black Revolutionary
  • Wendy Brainard as Family Man's Daughter
  • Lucille Meredith as Female Interviewer
  • Susan Blanchard as Ingenue
  • Norman Alden as Foreman
  • Dana Bratton as Black Junkie
  • John F. Goff as Well Dressed Customer
  • Norman D. Wilson as Vendor
  • Thelma Lee as Rich Lady
  • Stratton Leopold as Depressed Human
  • Rezza Shan as Arab Clerk
  • Norman Howell as Blonde Haired Cop
  • Larry Franco as Neighbor
  • Tom Searle as Biker
  • Robert Grasmere as Scruffy Blonde Man
  • Vince Inneo as Passageway Guard
  • Bob Hudson as Passageway Guard #2
  • Jon Paul Jones as Manager
  • Dennis Michael as Male News Anchor
  • Nancy Gee as Female News Anchor
  • Claudia Stanlee as Young Female Executive
  • Christine Anne Baur as Woman on Phone
  • Eileen Wesson as Pregnant Secretary
  • Gregory J. Barnett as Security Guard #1
  • Jim Nickerson as Security Guard #2
  • Kerry Rossall as 2nd Unit Guard
  • Cibby Danyla as Naked Lady
  • Jeff Imada as Male Ghoul
  • Michelle Costello as Female Ghoul
  • Jeb Stuart Adams as Homeless kid (uncredited)
  • Jennifer Austin as Teenage Girl (uncredited)
  • Michael Forino as Ghoul at Bar (uncredited)
  • Robert V. Greene as TV Technician (uncredited)
  • Helen Kelly as Woman at the Dinner Party (uncredited)
  • Al Leong as Asian Revolutionary (uncredited)
  • Gunnar Magg as Male Ghoulie (uncredited)
  • Matt McColm as Police Officer (uncredited)
  • Tommy Morrison as Dave - Resistance Fighter (uncredited)
  • John Carpenter as Voice That Says 'Sleep' (voice) (uncredited)

Who talks, scene by scene

Lines of dialogue in every 2 scenes, start to finish. Women above the line, men below. 21% of lines come from characters we couldn't match to the cast list and aren't shown.

Women

Men

Scene 1 Scene 85

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Show the numbers
ScenesWomen's linesMen's lines
1 to 201
3 to 400
5 to 627
7 to 8112
9 to 1002
11 to 12127
13 to 14012
15 to 1603
17 to 18012
19 to 2000
21 to 2203
23 to 2409
25 to 2600
27 to 28015
29 to 3001
31 to 3203
33 to 3400
35 to 3600
37 to 3800
39 to 40313
41 to 42110
43 to 4405
45 to 4604
47 to 4823
49 to 5002
51 to 521217
53 to 5400
55 to 5610
57 to 5810
59 to 6000
61 to 6200
63 to 6400
65 to 6600
67 to 6807
69 to 70015
71 to 7200
73 to 74012
75 to 7601
77 to 78836
79 to 80417
81 to 82132
83 to 8434
85 to 8521

The evidence

  • Straight from the script
  • Counted from the script and the credits

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Exhibit A: every 100 lines

Out of every 100 lines with a known speaker, 13 are women's.

42 lines from women, 286 from men.

  • Women
  • Men

Exhibit B: who's in it

13 women and 24 men in the cast. 8 women and 17 men from it get lines.

Characters

With lines

  • Women
  • Men

Exhibit C: who gets heard

The first woman speaks at line 4 of 417. The longest stretch with no woman speaking runs 95 lines.

Every line of dialogue, first to last

  • First line by a woman
  • Longest stretch with no woman speaking

Words spoken

Women speak 13% of the words (584), men 87% (3,991).

Exhibit D: the test the other way

Two named men talk to each other about something besides a woman. It passes the reverse test.

Conversations between two named characters

Exhibit E: behind the camera

None of the 9 people in these jobs are women. Across the whole crew, 13% of the people whose gender is listed are women.

Directed by
John Carpenter (man)
Written by
John Carpenter (man)
From the novel by
Ray Nelson (man)
Produced by
Larry Franco (man)
Shot by
Gary B. Kibbe (man)
Edited by
Gib Jaffe (gender not listed), Frank E. Jimenez (man)
Music by
John Carpenter (man), Alan Howarth (man)

The crew, department by department

  • Other crew

    9 women, 61 men, 7 not listed

  • Sound

    2 women, 21 men, 5 not listed

  • Production

    3 women, 5 men, 2 not listed

  • Camera

    0 women, 2 men, 6 not listed

  • Art

    0 women, 3 men, 3 not listed

  • Costume & Make-Up

    0 women, 4 men, 2 not listed

  • Editing

    1 women, 3 men, 2 not listed

  • Lighting

    0 women, 0 men, 5 not listed

  • Women
  • Men
  • Gender not listed on TMDB

Exhibit F: how old the stars were

Women: 41 on average. Men: 45 on average. The top-billed cast, at the film's release.

Women

Meg Foster 40, Susan Barnes 41

Men

Keith David 32, Roddy Piper 34, Jason Robards III 39, Peter Jason 44, Sy Richardson 47, George Buck Flower 51, John Lawrence 57, Raymond St. Jacques 58

Exhibit G: the money

It made 3.3 times what it cost.

Budget
$4 million
Box office
$13 million

From TMDB, not adjusted for inflation.

About this analysis

Our parser read the script: 85 scenes and 417 lines of dialogue. The bechdeltest.com rating comes from that site’s readers. How the test works

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